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Stf69x 25-08-2011 09:06 AM

Atentie !!! Aceasta versiune demo care a aparut este o versiune mai veche a jocului , cel de al 2 lea demo o sa fie inbunatatit din mai multe puncte de vedere .

David 96 25-08-2011 09:53 AM

Ai foarte mare dreptate, stephen! Tot ce ai zis este adevărat.

Stf69x 25-08-2011 12:51 PM

Konami anunţă că simulatorul fotbalistic PES 2012 va beneficia de două versiuni demo.

Prima dintre acestea va fi lansată pe 24 august şi va avea la bază o versiune mai veche şi incompletă a jocului. Vor fi disponibile 6 echipe - Manchester United, AC Milan, FC Porto, S.S.C Napoli, Santos FC şi C.A. Panarol – meciurile urmând să dureze 10 minute. Va putea fi testat atât noul sistem de control, cât şi sistemul AI activ.

Cea de a doua versiune demo ce va reflecta varianta finală a jocului va fi lansată la jumatea lunii viitoare, meciurile urmând să aibă tot 10 minute dar echipele prezente vor fi - Tottenham Hotspur, FC Bayern Munich, FC Internazionale Milano, Rangers FC, Club America şi Sport Club Internacional.

Razor 25-08-2011 01:14 PM

Deci tot nu vor baga Real Madrid in Demo, cu toate ca Ronaldo e pe coperta. Ce sa faci, Konami... Oricum nu-i un lucru asa important, bine ar fi sa vedem si la a doua versiune ceva imbunatatiri, pentru ca Fifa sa aiba intradevar un concurent.

Cataa7 25-08-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stephen (Post 419912)
Mie nu-mi place. Constat nişte chestii enervante care persistă
Şuturile, la fel ca la 2011, rămân un mister pentru mine. Chiar şi la cea mai firavă ciupire de tastă văd că are tendinţa să trimită avioane ca să nu mai spun că direcţia este un coşmar de reglat.

Aici tin sa te contrazic. Daca ai fi jucat anul trecut PES 11 sa vezi cum se duceau suturile peste tribuna ti-ai fi dat seama de schimbarile facute anu asta, anu asta sau straduit mai mult la ''suturi'' si loveste mingea nu baga sub ea ca anu trecut... in rest n-am la ce sa te contraziz.

stephen 25-08-2011 03:22 PM

Am spus că rămân un mister pentru mine. N-am spus daca au fost sau nu modificate în vreun fel. Ideea e ca merg la fel de bizar ca şi anul trecut.

Am citit şi eu acum care-i treaba cu cele doua versiuni...ciudat. În fine, oricum nu mă aştept la cine ştie ce miracole, problemele par greu de depăşit.

razvanultra55 25-08-2011 04:57 PM

Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 PC Demo Gameplay HD

I've used my enbseries patch, some EPL pop-ups
and added chants and Old Trafford Stadium...Enjoy the clip.






The official PES 2012 and WE 2012 sites have now opened, but it’s the Japanese page that has brought with it extra goodness!

Watch the new WE 2012 trailer below, showing all the new game modes and features! MUST WATCH!




Stf69x 26-08-2011 02:34 PM

Sa inteleg ca winning eleven 2012 e alt joc ? diferit de pes 2012 ?

Hook™ 26-08-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stf69x (Post 420605)
Sa inteleg ca winning eleven 2012 e alt joc ? diferit de pes 2012 ?

:eek:.Este acelasi joc,in Japonia este cunoscut ca Winning Eleven :D.

dinamovistu_ady 30-08-2011 08:58 AM

Cei de la pesromania au facut un poll pentru a alege echipele din RPES 2012 demo
http://www.pesromania.ro/stiri/1-sti...rpes-2012-demo

razvanultra55 01-09-2011 10:19 PM

PES 2012 Cover Confirmed

by razvanultra55


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Ronaldo Kicks Off PES 2012 Campaign

Massive advances in gameplay embodied by midfield ace cover star

Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH has revealed the packshot for its forthcoming PES 2012 title. The game, which is released September 28th/October 14th for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360® and Windows PC, features new cover star Cristiano Ronaldo and personifies the many advances the game offers. The cover shows the Real Madrid maestro on the ball in an image that embodies the many advances and options that are central to PES 2012: total control both on and off the ball. PES 2012 gives the user more control than any other football title, with all-new AI elements and off-the-ball control creating a game where the user can move players into dangerous areas during set pieces, or control second player to create space or make runs using the new Teammate Control system. Similarly, at the heart of PES 2012 is the Active AI system where players will drop into space, draw defenders out of position, and make diagonal runs as in real matches.


This creates a game that flows and moves just like a top-level game, and also create the defence-splitting passes and glorious attacks that has elevated Cristiano Ronaldo to the top of his game. “With so much emphasis on the movement of players and their individual abilities in PES 2012, we wanted the cover to feature a star known for their ability to change a game with one skillful move and to show that person doing what they do best,” explained Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader for Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH. “As such, the image features Cristiano shaping to hit the ball: whether to ping a long pass across field, picking out dangerous runs, or creating something out of seemingly nothing. He is the perfect embodiment of everything we have set out to do with the game this year.”


Quote:

“I am flattered that KONAMI has chosen me to be the face of PES 2012, and by their reasoning behind the cover image,” enthused the Real Madrid Number 7. “PES 2012 to me is the perfect recreation of football, and truly highlights the way teams work together to create attacks, make space and break down defences. I think anyone that plays it will get a better understanding of the mechanics of football and how players work together. It is never about one player, it is about the team – and PES 2012 demonstrates that better than any other game.”

Cristiano Ronaldo will also feature on the covers and marketing assets for the PlayStation®2 and PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) versions of PES 2012, which are on sale on October 27th/28th and for the Wii™ version out on November 3rd/4th.

razvanultra55 08-09-2011 08:20 AM

PES 2012 - Game Modes
 
We've heard snippets about the revamped game modes in PES 2012 - now we bring you an in-depth look at some of the Football Life game modes - including the brand new "Club Boss" as well as the single player stalwart that is Master League. To clear things up, for those that read the preview – we didn’t have all the information available to us back then, but we can confirm that "Football Life" is the collective name for the single player modes that we are used to (Master League and Become A Legend) as well as the new mode, Club Boss (which can be purchased from the Extra Content section for 100 PES points). We didn’t have the time to run through all of them – and as we were pushed for time unfortunately Become A Legend won't feature, but we did try out the other two modes.




Club Boss

As you’d expect, being the newest addition, “Club Boss” was the mode that we were most excited about getting our hands on – so it seems like the best place to start. It differs from anything that we’ve seen before – as it demands that you effectively take the reigns as a club chairman, controlling the club in a fiscal capacity. You want the club to succeed – and for that to happen you need to dominate the world of football in all areas: intelligent transfers, global brand imaging and actions on the field. It’ll be interesting to see how this modes is received as it effectively branches away from the core value of PES – playing a good game of football. You can try to influence what happens on the pitch from the comfort of your boardroom – but only by urging the manager (that you hire, from a list of people similar in design to the staff options in Master League) to choose certain players or use specific tactics... But, in the spirit of “the special one” your club manager may decide that he doesn’t want to do what he’s told. You don’t have any influence once your team heads for the pitch – you have to take your watch from your comfy leather seat in the stands (or choose to see an ‘events’ ticker, similar to those seen in managerial games). You have to hope that those within your club are all on the same page as each other, perhaps more importantly – the same page as you. The first task is to set out your financial structure for the year: choose the funds available for both transfers and marketing purposes. You need to plan carefully – it’s all effectively taken from your personal account, then ploughed straight into the club. The amount you have at your disposal, as you’d expect, determines the quality of players your manager will try to sign – and the size of your fan club/gate receipts respectively. The key thing to remember is that all money left in the pot at the end of the season is scratched off – so you need to get your budgets right. Choose the right targets, spend the right amount – and try to use every penny. Should it take your fancy, you can step into the Abramovich role by overruling and even cancelling the manager’s potential signings, and then replace them with your own – furthermore, if the target is someone that you’d really like to see at your club, you can sweeten the deal by investing a little bit more from your personal piggy bank. I mentioned managerial games previously, and can’t help but come back to that. This feels like a trimmed-down management sim mixed with all that we know about Master League and for those that like both, I’m sure it’ll be a good distraction from the other modes on offer – but it has its work cut out if it’s going to distract you from that AI. There are some charming personal touches within Club Boss, as well as the other modes within football life that, though simplistic, allow the player to engage with the plot to a greater extent than we’ve seen before. Konami have a desire to build emotion into their games – to create a storyline as well as deliver the action: sports entertainment if you will. The fact that you can choose to edit the look, name and nationality of the chairman gives you the chance to put your own personal stamp on the mode – perhaps even create yourself or a sporting icon, much like you can in BAL. The same applies to Master League too. Which leads nicely on...






Master League

The most noticeable change in Master League this year is that you now have a visible capacity. As you can with the chairman in Club Boss, you have the ability to customise your manager – which can either be drawn from the preset that you will have previously created as your “player data” avatar, or can be built from scratch. This is then used to present you in the game as a manager that interacts with the team – rather than the relying on those familiar sequential player reports and stat updates from your backroom staff staff. Don’t get me wrong I love master league – and don’t doubt that those nuggets of information have successfully served a purpose over the years, but it left you feeling a little distanced as a manager. Instead, regular video sequences are used as a device for you to show off your marquee signings to the world press, run through pre-match team talks and formation suggestions with your coaches – and even listen to the praises and complaints that members in your team may have following your recent decisions. They may turn out to be a little tedious, and I can see a lot of scope for repetition – but I can’t help but be drawn to the fact that they encapsulate that aura of classic PES – story rich, and undoubtedly cheesy (complete with the odd spelling mistake) but they give the mode something new. The aforementioned pre-game talks seem to be more useful too – you’d be forgiven for not noticing that they were included last year too, as they were very brief, generic chunks of text that gave no real indication of the tactics that you’d be benefit from employing. This year however, your coach looks at your opponents’ formation, identifies any key threats and advises of the best course of action for you to take. Also, players provide you with positive feedback as well as negative – you’ll no doubt be familiar with your stars complaining after being left on the bench, but now you’ll also get your youngsters showing their appreciation for including them in your plans. It tugged on my heartstring to see an ecstatic Gutierrez (the master league default) thanking me for getting to play the full 90 when the best he’d hoped for was starting on the bench. Elsewhere there are some nice touches that have built on what we had last year.




The backgrounds on PES 2011 showed a selection of your players forming a line-up across the screen, whereas this year you’ll see your team running through training drills – doing push ups, and sprints. Not major, but it adds a nice cosmetic touch. Also, that “bedding in period” when you start master league returns – but it’s not as restrictive as before, so there’s no forcing you to bid for players that you don’t want. It’d be nice if you could turn it off altogether – especially after you’ve started one ML on 2012 and are starting out on another, but the fact that this year gives you hints of how to work the mode, rather than orders, means that new-starters can utilise it whilst veterans can work past it. Obviously, the new AI will add to the longevity of master league – the fact that you will regularly face the prospect of being turned over will no doubt keep you hooked for at least an extra few seasons. I’m no world beater, though I can hold my own in the PES world – but I’ve found it a struggle to beat the AI on top player, it is possible but it’s difficult. Add to that the unlockable “superstar” setting and even the best PES players should find it competitive – even with the current Spanish international team. Keeping the game competitive and interesting, months after release is something that every developer craves for, and Konami are no different. Perhaps this is the reason they have opted to insert short-term goals into Master League, aptly named “missions”, that are given regularly throughout the season. They aim to provide you with something to keep you occupied in the immediate future whilst you still continue to fight your way to the top of the league table. If you complete your mission successfully you will earn a small financial bonus, whereas failure will end up in a penalty. For example: for a lowly Division 2 team – the prospect of a match being televised worldwide could do wonders for your reputation, therefore getting through the game without earning a booking would get you a nice reward, whilst playing aggressively could have negative effects (fines). A potentially great addition, particularly in the early years – when finances are tight: do you play solely for the win – or adjust your lineup slightly in order to compensate for the demands set by your missions? It’ll be interesting to see how all of these new extras work together, but perhaps the biggest factor is that – despite the changes, it still feels like the good ol’ Master League that we’ve grown up with.

Hook™ 09-09-2011 01:59 PM








RapidGoat 09-09-2011 02:47 PM

E foarte enervant,ca jocul contine echipe ciudate...Din liga ``D2``! De ce nu au scos??:(

razvanultra55 10-09-2011 01:23 AM

Demo 2 Coming Sept 14th!
 
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Since the 2nd Demo for PES 2012 is right around the corner in Europe on PSN and Xbox Live, we wanted to give you some insight on what you can expect from our next demo installment. Check below for all details.
The following teams will be available to play:
Tottenham Hotspurs, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Club America, Internacional
Please experiment with Pass Support and other settings in Personal Data to tailor the game to your style of play. Also, please note that you will be able to skip the Demo Intro after it has been played once. Furthermore, we also have improvement elements on the gameplay. According to your feedback on the first demo, we have worked on the following:
Improved Goal Keepers
According to your feedback on the first Demo, we improved the Goal Keepers
Improved Defensive AI
Defensive AI has been tweaked to work more efficiently on the field
Improved difficulty to score a goal
You definitely have to build up, plan and organize your attack well in order to score in this demo
For all of you who can’t wait, don’t forget that the 1st Demo is already out on PSN and PC in Europe, so get your hands on this first to give it a try!

Hook™ 12-09-2011 06:25 PM

PES 2012 AMERICAN COVER REVEALED

RapidGoat 14-09-2011 03:08 PM

DEMO DOWNLOAD-AICI!!

Echipe
* Inter Milan (Serie A)
* Tottenham Hotspur (EPL)
* Bayern Munich (Bundesliga)
* Rangers F.C. (Scottish Premier League)
* Club América (Primera División)
* Internacional (Campeonato Brasileiro Série A)

Shuby 17-09-2011 03:46 PM

2nd Demo Gameplay:

Hook™ 17-09-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuby (Post 432156)
2nd Demo Gameplay:

Nu am mai downloadat si versiunea 2.Este mai buna ca prima ? Se merita s-o descarc ?

Theo1948 17-09-2011 03:59 PM

Sa inteleg ca la jocul asta s-a muncit un an de zile? :o

Caly 17-09-2011 05:04 PM

N-avem de unde să ştim cât s-a muncit sau nu. Totuşi, eu mă declar dezamăgit. Am jucat doar un meci. Şi nu mai jucasem PES de la 2010 încoace. Nu m-am lovit de o evoluţie prea mare dpdv al gameplay-ului. Iar ceea ce m-a deranjat cel mai mult e sistemul de pase - mult, mult prea directe. De parcă jucatorii ar fi legaţi între ei de o sfoară invizibilă pe care s-ar deplasa mingea. Ciudat.

Comparaţia cu FIFA nu mai are sens să o fac.

beyou 25-09-2011 03:54 PM

E un pic mai bun ca pes 11

Shuby 27-09-2011 05:47 AM

Real Madrid - Manchester United in Champions League:

zeqw 01-10-2011 10:35 AM

e super jocu...grafica e beton:))

Hook™ 02-10-2011 09:54 AM

"Din placere pentru fotbal" este si va fi mereu lozinca noastra, si ne-am gandit sa luam mult mai in serior aceste vorbe. Daca pana acum am ne-am "razboit" in permanenta cu tot ceea ce inseamna FIFA, PES Romania lasa armele jos si intinde mana celor de la FIFA. Aceasta zi va intra in istoria noastra dar si a fanilor care ne urmaresc. Aceasta zi este ultima in care am atacat prin mijloace mai mult sau mai putin ortdoxe imaginea FIFA si prima zi in care incercam sa deschidem ochii si sa privim doar partea buna a lucrurilor.

Un gram de maturitate in plus, un val ridicat de pe ochi sau mai bine spus faptul ca fiecare vede altfel culorile, fiecare dintre noi are un alt sentiment si asta pentru ca suntem total diferiti unul de altul. Cei ce iubesc PES nu vor iubi FIFA datorita faptului ca au alte gusturi si invers. Noi incercam sa-i impacam pe toti, lasandu-va pe voi sa alegeti ce va place.

Incepand de astazi PES Romania va va tine la curent cu tot ce inseamna FIFA si va va pune la dispozitie unelte si patch-uri pentru acest joc. PES va ramane principalul obiect de lucru al nostru insa vom pune in lumina si alte jocuri acolo unde este cazul. Aceasta decizie a noastra a fost influentata si de votul nostru de pe pagina noastra de facebook, facebook.com/pesromania.ro, unde majoritatea fanilor isi doresc sa afle ultimile noutati si despre FIFA, asta si pentru a pune mai bine in balanta in ce masura Konami aduce schimbari in PES an de an.

Acest sentiment al nostru dorim sa il impartasim cu voi, de aceea va rugam pe aceasta cale sa nu va mai jigniti in comentariile de pe acest site si sa incercati sa va exprimati un punct de vedere civilizat.

In sfarsit celor de la PesRomania le-a veniti mintea la cap si au incetat cu prostiile alea care le spuneau. :)

Caly 02-10-2011 11:02 AM

Mda... mare brânză. Vreau ei acum să-şi salveze puţin pielea, că oricum au dovedit neprofesionalism până-n pânzele albe.

Eşti site care lucrează la patch-uri pentru PES şi, implicit fan al jocului respectiv, foarte bine. Ce treabă ai cu FIFA? Adică, în urmă cu câteva săptămâni aruncai cu noroi în jocul celor de la EA şi acum te declari "frate" cu el. Serios? E o dovadă de naivitate extremă şi, la fel, neprofesionalism. Nu ai "cu ce" să scrii articole decente, nu o face. Asta ar trebui să o audă şi sport.ro, cam în aceeaşi categorie sunt şi ei.

Raulic 03-10-2011 05:20 PM

Frate e mult spus ...
Ce ai vrea sa se intample cand te uiti in jur si vezi ca piata jocurilor de gen din Romania se duce de rapa ? Aaa scuza-ma, nu stiu daca am dreptate, dar am vazut undeva ca nici FifaRomania nu prea mai rezista mult ..
Un al doilea pont, ce crezi ca e mai bine dintre a nu posta articole pe site o perioada indelungata sau a posta un articol "indecent" ? Am vrut sa va dam o mana de ajutor, e treaba voastra daca asa o luati ...

Caly 03-10-2011 05:58 PM

Nu "o luăm". Eu personal aşa cred şi am simţit nevoia să zic. Deci chiar mă bucur că ai dat pe aici.

Normal că nu e bine fără articole pe perioade mari de timp şi sunt conştient că asta e o problemă. Dar nici articole lipsite de bun simţ. Eu aşa văd lucrurile: în momentul în care ai un site de genul ăsta, trebuie să fii profi şi să postezi articole imparţiale. Când faci un review hai că mai merge o notă de subiectivism, dar tot limitat pentru că eu ca şi cititor vreau să văd ceva obiectiv, nu părerea lui x sau y - pentru asta exista forum.

Conlcuzia e că dacă tot vreţi să faceţi ceva, faceţi-o bine şi dovediţi maturitatea pe care o pretindeţi, chiar şi în cazul unor simple articole (că de patch-uri nu am cum să mă leg, căci acolo merge treaba). Succes şi aştept altfel de articole. :)

Raulic 03-10-2011 06:11 PM

Iti inteleg pozitia. Pentru ca era cineva la noi in echipa ca si tine, avea o ura innascuta pentru FIFA, si pentru ca avea o pozitie superioara sa zicem, el dauna si articolelor si altor chestii ce se invarteau prin jurul echipei. Personal, nu sunt fanatic pentru PES, pentru ca joc si FIFA, si poate eu stiu ce inseamna sa fii impartial. Nu stiu daca in cazul vostru au fost ocazii in care sa se observe aceasta impartialitate de care vorbesti , pentru ca am luat contact cu multi fifa-loveri, cu care nu am sfarsit contactul amiabil ... tocmai pentru ca cineva le-a sugerat ca FIFA e mai bun ca PES, fara sa vina cu dovezi clare..

Ca tot ziceai de sport.ro si/sau prosport.ro.. ti se pare ca ei posteaza articole lipsite de subiectivism ? Adica ba lauda FIFA, ba PES , niciodata intr-un articol , de fiecare data separat..

Caly 03-10-2011 06:59 PM

Cred că m-ai înţeles puţin greşit. Ideea e că eu nu sunt vreun fifa-lover sau mai ştiu eu ce. Principiul pe care-l încurajez e: joacă ce-ţi place şi basta (asta dacă mai ai timp sau poţi să rulezi jocul respectiv). În cazul celor două - FIFA şi PES - la fel, joci ce îţi place ţie şi gata, nu te apuci "să distrugi" un joc fără argumente valabile doar pentru că tu nu îl agreezi. Atât.

Legat de articolele de pe sport.ro, mă refeream la calitatea şi legătura lor cu sportul, în general. Nu ştiu în ultimele luni, pentru că nu am mai intrat, dar înainte aveau texte (articole nu le pot numi) de toată jena.

Raulic 03-10-2011 07:11 PM

Cam asta e ideea .. da 96% din gamerii din Romania nu inteleg lucrul asta .. daca joc FIFA , trebuie sa urasc PES-ul si viceversa.. si daca le joci pe aman2 ce faci atunci ?

stefan 04-10-2011 11:40 PM

Ciudata schimbare de situatie din partea echipei care declara ca ei sunt ca un Mercedes si FifaRomania ca o Dacie si sutineau ca noi nu facem patchuri noi ci doar le convertim pe cele vechi. Poate daca ar fi avut cineva bunul simt sa se uite prin ele ar fi observat ca in fiecare an totul a fost nou, chiar si stadioanele au fost refacute de vreo 3 ori (da, alea despre care spuneati ca le faceam in Paint din 3 linii). Oricum nu stiu cine e interesat de stirea asta... Si nu mi-a placut topicul ala in care va anuntati noua sectiune. Daca ati fugarit fanii FIFA de pe forum nu mi se pare frumos sa va faceti reclama aici ca sa-i aduceti inapoi.

Acum ca am clarificat si asta cred ca totusi asta e un topic despre PES asa ca va rog sa nu mai deviati de la subiect!

Raulic 05-10-2011 02:39 PM

Nu a fugarit nimeni pe nimeni ..
Si acum sunt multi fani FIFA la noi pe forum care probabil nu au recunoscut..
Cum i-am zis si lui caly era cineva inainte care strica parerea despre fifa, eu nici macar nu am fost in echipa cand au postat articolul cu Mercedesul si Dacia, si da sigur era asa cum zici tu ca sunt foarte sigur ca doar 2 oameni din echipa au jucat patchul vostru. Poti sa vezi si la noi pe forum, ca multora le pare rau cand au auzit ca voi o sa inchideti site-ul , le pare rau bineinteles pentru patchurile voastre, fie ca joace doar FIFA sau si PES.

Nu prea cred ca am avea nevoie de fani inapoi cand am crescut de la 500 de useri pe zii pe 5000 intrun an ...

Edu* 10-10-2011 05:04 PM

In acest an pes'ul ma dezamagit,ma asteptam la mai mult,fifa > pes

JohnnyUSA 13-10-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

N-avem de unde să ştim cât s-a muncit sau nu. Totuşi, eu mă declar dezamăgit. Am jucat doar un meci. Şi nu mai jucasem PES de la 2010 încoace. Nu m-am lovit de o evoluţie prea mare dpdv al gameplay-ului. Iar ceea ce m-a deranjat cel mai mult e sistemul de pase - mult, mult prea directe. De parcă jucatorii ar fi legaţi între ei de o sfoară invizibilă pe care s-ar deplasa mingea. Ciudat.
Incearca sa schimbi sistemul de pase din setari si mai vorbim atunci ;-) In rest.. multa sanatate, PES is back.. it was dead since PES 6.

KenVelo^ 17-10-2011 07:47 PM

Dupa parerea mea, este mult mai slab decat Fifa 12

JohnnyUSA 18-10-2011 01:02 AM

Parerea ta conteaza mai putin atat timp cat nu aduci si argumente ;-)

Danny79 18-10-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenVelo^ (Post 441592)
Dupa parerea mea, este mult mai slab decat Fifa 12

Comentariile de genul acesta nu isi au nici un rost. Fiecare are dreptul sa joace ce joc vrea dar asta nu cred ca ii da dreptul sa critice alt joc.
Daca unora le place Fifa sa vorbeasca de fifa, celor care le place sa joace pes sa vorbeasca despre pes, etc.
In loc sa se certe pe un forum pe tema " Care joc e mai bun" ar trebui sa vina cu propuneri pentru cei care lucreaza la patchuri.
Asa se vor putea face updateuri bune pentru joc nu criticand alte jocuri.

<daniiiel> 21-10-2011 08:28 PM

Am incercat Pro Evolution Soccer 2012, dar nu este o diferenta mare intre 2011. Sunt multe lucruri bune si la Fifa, si la Pes, dar eu tot raman la Fifa:D

ionutuz 25-10-2011 08:09 PM

stie cineva de unde sa iau si eu pes 2012 pentru ps2 ?


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