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DarkComy
28-03-2008, 07:02 PM
Am observat ca nu avem un topic despre Anime (desene animate din Japonia sau mai exact spus desene animate facute dupa manga (un fel de comic books))

De ce sa nu purtam discutia in topicul despre desene animate? Pentru ca exista diferente foarte mari intre desenele americane de la CN de exemplu si anime-uri.
In caz ca nu stiti diferentele va invit sa cititi articolul urmator. Japanese Animation: What is it and why is it important?

by Mike Garvey

goku6.gif (45574 bytes)Japanese animation, also known as anime, is a sensation taking America by storm. From the “underground” fans who buy all the subtitled DVD releases, to the casual child watching on Kids WB or Toonami, anime is making an impact on this country. Just what is anime? Anime is the Japanese equivalent of a cartoon, only there are differences. Anime is often time used as an outlet for an artist’s idealism or fatalism regarding society, but it can also be made just for the sake of having fun, and creating something silly.

Cartoons are for kids, and those in touch with their inner child. The topics covered are childish, and rather repetitive. Anime, however, is made for people of all ages and all maturity levels. Most anime released in the US is for the younger Japanese children. There’s even some anime and manga for dirty old men and mothers who were delinquent children. So, excluding the anime made for the aforementioned group, what makes anime so inappropriate by American standards? One could say that it’s because the Japanese culture doesn’t really see nudity and such as inappropriate, but the reason almost all anime fans cite is that America is the most conservative country in the world as far as television programming.

Anime can have many different reasons for its existence. Ghost-In-the-Shell is an anime movie about a womanghost010.jpg (27066 bytes) named Major Kusanagi in the year 2029A.D. Her body is all machine, but her mind is a human brain. The movie is a great action movie, with great animation, but the purpose of the movie is to ask the question "If humans can make artificial beings superior to humans, what's the point of being human?" The TV series Dragonball Z is a crazy series about energy-shooting, flying, super-strong people who face one enemy after the next, and each one tougher than the previous. DBZ is a perfect example of what greatness can come when anime is created for the sake of making something enjoyable. Evangelion is a true masterpiece of a series. Based around a young boy named Shinji, Evangelion follows several teens who pilots large robots called EVAs in a war for a company called NERV. This series combines great action with a very philisophical, probing look into the fragile psyches of adolescents.

How did anime come about? Well, pictures bearing an almost identical drawing style to that of modern day anime have been found in Japan dating back to hundreds of years ago! That style evolved and was incorporated into manga. Manga is roughly the same as comic books. It’s got some differences, like the series is usually written and drawn by one person throughout its whole circulation. Now, this relates to anime, because anime evolved from manga, and they are nearly identical as far as plot, theme, purpose, drawing style, etc. In the earliest days of anime, the person that influenced the art form the most wasn’t Japanese. An American man by the name of Walt Disney indirectly had more influence on anime in its early days than anyone else. Osamu Tezuka, one of the most famous creators of anime/manga saw that in movies like Bambi and Snow White the characters had large eyes that made showing characters emotions much easier. Tezuka’s works have set the standard for many generations of anime and manga artists.

There are many differences between anime and cartoons. For one, anime is from Japan and cartoons are American in origin. That seems silly, but the implications of the cultural differences of the two countries are that anime is what Americans might call, risqué, or inappropriate for children. Nudity is commonplace in Japanese anime, along with adult jokes, and things that are quite disturbing, but don’t have a category. For example, in Pokémon, one of the most child oriented anime series to date, a male character named James has some interesting qualities about him. He’s obsessed with clothes and is always carrying and smelling a rose, not that there’s anything wrong with those two things. Where it crossed the line and got cut from the American series though, was the episode where he got breast implants and wore a bikini for quite a bit of the episode. However in Japan they see things that Americans find offensive as normal and acceptable. Another difference is that in anime, the main characters can die. In an American cartoon, which is made for kids, that could never happen. In fact, in a show like Dragonball Z, a main character can die multiple times! vegeta.gif (15576 bytes)

Believe it or not, there’s more that’s different between anime and cartoons that just that! Character development, the most important thing for any good series or story, is gone about in a different way. In American cartoons, most development is done via direct characterization. It’s actually said in words at some time or another what his personality is like. It still may take several episodes to fully develop a character. In anime, it’s mostly done through indirect characterization, and consequently one character can take half a season of programming or more to describe. Not only does character development take longer, it goes much more in depth, and the characters aren't "super hero-esque". Almost all anime characters have merits and flaws, and if a character has a flaw, he will always have it, even if it ends up killing him and his friends.

The main purpose of anime is different than that of cartoons. Cartoons are made to entertain children and those in touch with their inner child. Anime is made for anything from a sociopathic view on the possibilities of technology replacing humans in the distant future, to a warm, fuzzy children's story. One of the biggest differences between cartons and anime is this one fact. In Japan, anime is so accepted and supported, that I.G. Production, that company that made the new movie Blood: The Last Vampire, was given financial aid by the Japanese government. People will be playing hockey on the river Styx before that will happen in America.

Finally, as far as differences go, a huge difference between cartoons and anime is the actual style of drawing. In anime,eva3charmain.jpg (9839 bytes) the eyes are unrealistically large as to make showing emotion easier. Showing stress or a tense situation is done with what looks like a mathematical plus sign on the forehead. The sign is supposed to be a bulging vein, like the one George always had in Seinfeld. A rather gross thing unique to anime is that big, wet, drippy snot bubbles coming out of a characters nose denote that the character is asleep. Finally, a large sweat bead on the characters forehead shows that they are nervous. It's a very common occurrence for people to be nervous in Japan during conversation, because in Japan people are often too polite to say what they're really thinking.

So Japanese anime truly is the quintessential type of animation. It’s got themes for all people, young or old. In other countries, the themes seem inappropriate because the Japanese tend to trust the younger people with more mature topics. It can have many hidden message, like good literature, or it can just be for fun, like even better literature. Anime still continues to gain respect with American audiences, and may someday be an accepted form of television programming and not something that’s only for devoted fans

As vrea ca in topicul asta sa vorbim despre anime-uri in general -Bleach, Naruto, Death Note, Devil May Cry, Blue Gender, Trigun etc.

So...ce animeuri ati vazut? ce urmariti? ce manga-uri cititi?
Eu am vazut Yu Yu Hakusho, Death Note, Devil May Cry, Blue Gender (astea am terminat de vizionat) iar momentan urmaresc Bleach si Naruto.

P.S. Rog mistocarii sa se abtina de la a posta daca nu au nimic inteligent de spus.

stephen
28-03-2008, 08:09 PM
Cand eram mai ciutanel ma uitam la Dragon Ball ,dar longevitatea lui a devenit agasanta.

Nu am vazut decat doua anime-uri complete : Shaman King(tin sa subliniez ca l-am vazut inainte de Jetix si e mult,mult mai marfa in japoneza) si Elfen Lied.
Mai urmaresc din cand in cand Naruto pe Jetix dar dublarea mi se pare de-a dreptul imbecila.

PS. Comy, hentai-urile nu-ti plac? :lol:

S3BBY
28-03-2008, 08:14 PM
Şi eu m-am uitat până acuma la un singur anime,Dragon Ball. :D

Danutz_dark_one
28-03-2008, 08:24 PM
si eu am urmarit mere cu sufletul la gura Dragon Ball Z :D
@stephen: sunt misto hentai-urile, dar e mai misto cu actori :lol:

DarkComy
28-03-2008, 08:29 PM
In caz ca va intereseaza un anime foarte marfa si scurt, va recomand Death Note (37 de episoade). Este vorba despre un licean care intr-o zi gaseste un caiet (Death Note) scapat de un Shinigami (Death God). Numele persoanei trecute in acel caiet urma sa moara in mai putin de un minut. Este un serial psihologic foarte foarte marfa. Personajul principal imi amintea de Michael Scofield la cat de calm era si cat de calculat. :)

liquid
28-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Am vazut Dragon Ball, acum ma uit la Dragon Ball Z si urmeaza Dragon Ball GT :D. Pe jetix am vazut si eu Shaman king, stephen o sursa pentru seria completa?

stephen
28-03-2008, 08:52 PM
Sursa ? Pai nu pot ca ar insemna sa-mi dau singur warn :D .Seria de pe Jetix este completa, doar ca este tradusa si adaptata din versiunea americana(in engleza) .Eu l-am vazut pe tot in japoneza,titrat in engleza. De fapt asa se vad toate anime-urile daca intr-adevar vrei sa le savurezi. Revenind la Shaman King,pe Jetix sunt schimbate multe replici,glume si detalii picante . Mi se pare ca e si pe YouTube urcat.

DarkComy
28-03-2008, 09:01 PM
Jetix SUX!! Ma zgarie pe timpan daca incerc sa ma uit si aud vocile in romana, mai ales la Naruto

@stephen...da am vazut si ceva hentai

sisu_stelistul
28-03-2008, 09:10 PM
Shaman King am vazut si eu pe Jetix, de vreo 2/3 ori, mi-a placut dar parca a fost mic, aducandu-mi aminte de vremurile cand era pe TVR 2, am luat si eu Dragon Ball, am ajuns pe la episodul 30, dar m-am cam pliptisit de toate serialele pe care le vedeam la DVD, oricum vreau sa-l vad ca-mi place.

boggy
28-03-2008, 10:00 PM
Urmaresc Naruto . La inceput mi s-a parut copilaroasa animatia ,dar cu cat vizionezi mai mult cu atat devine mai interesanta si mai captivanta .

DarkComy
28-03-2008, 10:29 PM
Urmaresc Naruto . La inceput mi s-a parut copilaroasa animatia ,dar cu cat vizionezi mai mult cu atat devine mai interesanta si mai captivanta .

Asta e marfa la Anime...povestea si evolutia personajelor.

champion
28-03-2008, 11:00 PM
Cred ca am vazut toate episoadele din Dragon Ball Z, GT, etc... si mai erau ceva cu fotbal, dar numai tin minte numele :-??

sisu_stelistul
28-03-2008, 11:06 PM
Da erau misto alea cu fotbal, parca pe Action + erau, m-as mai uitat si eu odata le ele, dar nu stiu cum se numesc.

Danutz_dark_one
28-03-2008, 11:11 PM
le stiu si eu, in fiecare seara le urmaream, nu am pierdut niciun episod :) ma refer la a doua difuzare, ca s-a dat la tv de 2 ori, din prima am prins doar cateva episoade :)

DarkComy
28-03-2008, 11:19 PM
Cred ca am vazut toate episoadele din Dragon Ball Z, GT, etc... si mai erau ceva cu fotbal, dar numai tin minte numele :-??

Galactik Football cumva?

Da erau misto alea cu fotbal, parca pe Action + erau, m-as mai uitat si eu odata le ele, dar nu stiu cum se numesc.

Te referi la A+ care vine de la Anime+

champion
28-03-2008, 11:33 PM
Da, Galactic Football (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p36d3_jdprE), dar la asta nu m-am uitat ca nu prea mi-a placut... era ceva mai vechi, stai sa vad daca gasesc.
brb :D

LE: asta era (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUudjd_COpk) si ce-mi placea :)
Tsubasa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFEV6aod8bs&feature=related)^_^

sisu_stelistul
28-03-2008, 11:51 PM
Da astea de care zice champion sunt, astea mi-au placut si mie, Capitan Tsubasa se numeau?

Tsubasa is an international soccer star who has been playing in Brazil, and is going to try playing in Europe with the eventual hopes of winning the World Cup there.



The first 36 or so episodes look back on Tsubasa's childhood playing in Nankatsu, Japan. He remembers his friends, rivals, and coaches. These episodes are remade versions of the original Captain Tsubasa series (1983-1986), Captain Tsubasa J (1994-1995), and Shin Captain Tsubasa (1989)

Cred ca ce am vazut la TV erau din seriile originale, asta cred ca e altceva, ca e facut in 2001-2002.

champion
29-03-2008, 12:33 AM
Erau faine oricum :P... imi amintesc cand veneam de la scoala si repede puneam pe Pro7 (germani), inafara de Tsubasa mai era Pokemon, Digimon, Dragon Ball, etc. :)

Pffff :D... ce vremuri :wub:

Danutz_dark_one
30-03-2008, 02:44 PM
mi-am adus aminte de un serial anime pe care l-am urmarit mereu :D
Yu-Gi-Oh! :D
PS: http://anime6.org gasiti aici episoade complete din multe seriale anime(Dragon Ball, Elfen Lied, Pokemin, Digimon si multe altele :D)

champion
30-03-2008, 06:02 PM
Thanks pt. link. :)
Cred ca ma voi uita la cateva cand voi avea timp. :P

bogdan7
30-04-2008, 03:33 PM
dintre anime-uri cel mai mult mi-a placut seria Dragon Ball
Off-topic: Stie cineva un site asemanator cu cel dat de Danutz_dark_on dar unde se pot vedea seriale de comedie?:) gen, Seinfeld, Falmillia Bundy etc.
http://anime6.org/?p=51 - pacat, dar nu sunt toate in engleza:(

Chase187
07-09-2008, 11:01 PM
Cand eram mic am ma uitam la Dragonball dupa care am vazut si restul seriilor,DBZ si DBGT :D

Acum nu ma mai uit la anime-uri insa m`am uitat la unul din pura curiozitate care m-a captivat si fascinat peste masura.Se numeste DEATH NOTE.Intr-adevar un anime de nota 10, ff inteligent si surprinzator cu fiecare episod, il recomand tuturor sa il vada ;)

Lexy
08-09-2008, 12:03 AM
topic pe placul meu;))
Primul anime vazut a fost Sailor Moon, pe care l-am revazut cu placere si anul asta:). A urmat Dragon Ball (Goku era asa sweet).
Lately am vazut Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist (l-as urmari la nesfarsit), Inuyasha, Honey&Clover (geniale, ambele sezoane), Hell Girl, Yu Yu Hakusho si nu-mi mai amintesc altele momentan...



...in afara de Paradise Kiss. doua cuvinte: ABSOLUT GENIAL. poveste realista, grafica foarte buna, ending theme-ul mi-a placut la nebunie:). am plans la final si cred ca m-am regasit un pic in personajul principal (povestea era mai mult pentru fete). Asteptam cu sufletul la gura urmatorul episod... I just loved it:)

Dealer
08-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Mie in general imi place animeurile,cele care merita vazute.

Dragon Ball/Z/GT le-am avzut toate , urmeaza AF.

Cand eram mai mic stiu ca ma uitam la pokemon , yu-gi-oh.
Actual imi place naruto dar vocea lui este cam aiurea,
Am avzut si toate seriile din Galactick Football (foarte stupida adaptarea) ,Shaman King etc. Nu imi mai aduc aminte de toate.

maestrufifa
23-11-2008, 08:21 PM
nu prea imi plac animeurile, poate decat shaman king si dragon ball z si putin death note